Framing Megan Fox: Feminist Theory Part 3 | The Whole Plate: Episode 7

コメント数

  1. Katy Tui

    Katy Tui日 前

    In my grade 7 band class, our teacher taught us to play some of the music from transformers. Then she showed us the first transformers movie. I wanted to barf almost the entire time.

  2. Ned Kelly

    Ned Kelly2 日 前

    Everything hindered in Grandma getting her Prunejuice

  3. Michael Spooner

    Michael Spooner5 日 前

    Mr.Bay is higher level mind like fractal Ginsberg.Well,I'm sorry for that.I wanted to mention summer Milano fashion week LudocicSaint Sernin,in that some suits are offlimits in friendly manners.If a lady wears 200 year old quality garments,does she say-I am offlimits?Some people are more approachable in their cheaper knockoffs.No matter what I thank all for their good and interesting manners.

  4. Melisa Martinez

    Melisa Martinez9 日 前

    excellent video! I always hate the director of this movie...

  5. Primal Faith

    Primal Faith12 日 前

    This video is especially more relevant, given Megan Fox did a very good job in Rogue enough to prove her naysayers wrong.

  6. INSERTGODZILLANAMEHERE 1

    INSERTGODZILLANAMEHERE 113 日 前

    In the transformers. The first thing that comes to mind is the robots that turn into cars. Did you forget that?

  7. Ashmeed Mohammed

    Ashmeed Mohammed13 日 前

    shit, my mind is blown, and i watched this movie like 15 times..... but i did think it was weird that she knew so much about cars.

  8. Patrice Smith

    Patrice Smith14 日 前

    Dictated Freedom is not freedom! Why have there been no women writing the sequel of Mikyla Banes? Body Heat starring Kathleen Turner & William Herd will never have a sequel because only WOMEN have the Wright to speak to what her freedom means to her! Kathleen’s acting of the protagonist is perfect. She kills the idiot who married her and henchmen William Herd is in jail where he belongs! She in possession of her freedom, and only women can interpret what that means! Same with the character of Ms. Banes-where are the women writers (still licking their wounds from EQUAL RIGHTS AMENDMENT CIRCA THE 70’s. Look to Phyllis S. The Fault lies where?

  9. Angelo D Teixeira

    Angelo D Teixeira15 日 前

    I buy the "Megan Fox is bad" bait. Shame on me

  10. KlutzCopSu

    KlutzCopSu17 日 前

    Megan Fox was the only reason I liked the Transformer movies.

  11. Eric Lytle

    Eric Lytle20 日 前

    You take these movies too seriously. This is not real life.

  12. max roth

    max roth21 日 前

    this isn’t really about this video, which is fantastic, but the title of this video reminded me of something really frustrating to me about verbiage people use when discussing michaelas character. often, they just refer to her as ‘Megan Fox’. sometimes, they say “the megan fox character from transformers”, or something along those lines, which i think is quite different. and referring to her as megan fox as shorthand in a discussion about the character is also quite different. but i don’t think it’s fair to fox herself how mich people view her as just... the sexualized character from transformers. again this isn’t really about this video, because lindsay’s points are much more thoughtful. but there’s this weird victim blaming element of the way people talk about megan’s character. as if it’s her fault she’s being objectified. the concept of her being “framed”, not in the literal cinematic sense, but in the sense of her taking the hit for another person (bay)‘s crime, is all too real. people blame HER for the way she’s filmed and it’s so cruel and unfair :( anyways this is kinda a ramble. love the video!!!!

  13. Shawn Ferrell

    Shawn Ferrell21 日 前

    POOR MEGAN FOX! THE WAY THEY FORCED HER TO BE IN THOSE SHIT MOVIES!

  14. TomMSTie1138

    TomMSTie113822 日 前

    TL; DR: Michael Bay is a bad storyteller/filmmaker.

  15. The Phoenix-Feathered Raven

    The Phoenix-Feathered Raven26 日 前

    I want a remake of the entire series with Mikaela and her dad as the main protagonists.

  16. Waffie The Dweeb

    Waffie The Dweeb26 日 前

    I like the points in this. If Megan Fox were to play wonder woman, and executed it perfectly. I think people would still be mean to her. And I always thought she was the most useful.

  17. Zed 4

    Zed 426 日 前

    Yet another reason why I don’t like the Transformers movies.

  18. Xavier Jones

    Xavier Jones27 日 前

    PS, I also would love to see your take on the RACE issues of Transformers. Because there is a lot of that too. Michael bay seems to have issues... (0_o)

  19. Tareltonlives

    Tareltonlives22 日 前

    I'm looking forward to that video

  20. Xavier Jones

    Xavier Jones27 日 前

    WOW! Thank you for this... Hey. I am having trouble finding the other parts to The Problem of Lady Robots: Feminist Theory Part 1 | The Whole Plate: Episode 5 . Are they out yet or are you working on them, I would really like to see those... :)

  21. Sof Demi

    Sof Demi29 日 前

    Michaela needs her own spinoff

  22. Henrique Grolli

    Henrique Grolliヶ月 前

    I'm not sure, I might eat the moon if it was made of ribs.

  23. Jorge

    Jorgeヶ月 前

    I'm just glad Bumblebee exists.

  24. Ahmrael

    Ahmraelヶ月 前

    There is nothing even remotely absurd about Maggie's proposal of a DNA based computer. Man-made biological computers, specifically protein based, have been theorised to be possible for decades and man-made biological computing actually entered the early stages of actual reality almost a decade ago.

  25. Molly Meyer

    Molly Meyerヶ月 前

    not to objectify women but i might fuck around and watch transformer's so that i can appreciate megan fox's beauty

  26. Minolica

    Minolicaヶ月 前

    5:21 I remember that the movie was supposed to be about an alien race fighting for millenia and about their leaders, Megatron and Optimus fucking Prime. Yet the idiot and the eye candy had more screentime than the ones that were supposed to be the main characters.

  27. Michael Beasley

    Michael Beasleyヶ月 前

    10:10 why do u think that is? There are a lot of truths in stereotypes and most ppl aren't educated or sophisticated by experience enough to see hot, feminine women any other way than helpless and unintelligent, but if the avg person spends a significant amount of time with said 'hot and intelligent feminine female' I believe their basic attitudes toward women in general would change and grow. But unfortunately there are many truths to most stereotypes.

  28. Michael Beasley

    Michael Beasleyヶ月 前

    There's nothing wrong with the way the mother talked to her husband...people do joke with their significant others that way.

  29. Ace Healer

    Ace Healerヶ月 前

    11:14 I really would like to hear Lindsay talk about the writers’ strike again at some point.

  30. Mike Kuhlman

    Mike Kuhlmanヶ月 前

    I like to think that Marisa Tomei's character in 'My Cousin Vinny' is the grown-up version of Michaela. Her character, Lisa, is treated to a similar framing strategy as Michaela (telling our eyeballs that she's not to be taken seriously via her crazy outfits), but it's all in service to the final payoff where she wows everyone with her know-how. The 'dissonant' framing has narrative purpose in her case. Whereas Bay's framing seems to support the idea that viewing Megan Fox is a payoff in and of itself.

  31. Operation FUBAR

    Operation FUBARヶ月 前

    Words can’t express the level of rage I felt when that twitter screen shot calling Mikaela/Megan “a whore” came on screen. Who ever wrote that is a gross piece of shit. Jesus fucking Christ.

  32. Duffman15000

    Duffman15000ヶ月 前

    13:41 because like all women Mikaela is too dumb to hold the air brush like an air brush and is using it like its a sharpie. And all men have come to terms with that being the case so we let you play pretend. While we surrender all hope for meeting a lady which will be able to understand the things we're saying on a intrinsic and technical levels while we simply focus on the T&A. Ex. See the meme poster for women in STEM soldering iron

  33. PotiusNumquam

    PotiusNumquamヶ月 前

    That was.. eyeopening..

  34. Aman Bytheway

    Aman Bythewayヶ月 前

    Men generally don't find 'experienced' women sexy, or at least 'infantilised' women are less intimidating to common masculinity, thus we have an experienced female character portrayed as an object of fantasy rather than knowledge in order to protect this fragile masculine ideal.

  35. Chaseocavo

    Chaseocavo2 ヶ月 前

    2:57 dude sick LS swap

  36. Diamonddrake

    Diamonddrake2 ヶ月 前

    I don’t get the framing making her character any less of a badass and any less memorable. The protagonist needed to be a victim, so they could be constantly saved by robot intervention. mikaela was not a victim. She was the epitome of badassery. She was a female transformer; a hero in circumstance to save and protect weak little Sam for no apparent reason other than how simple he was. They are shiny and cool she was shiny and cool. If she was the protagonist the movie would have a much different tone. They would have had to weaken her character, and I’m glad they didn’t. The movie is intentionally immature to serve its audience. Her character exists mostly so Sam has someone to talk to besides his parents to progress the story, but ends up being his felicity and his trinity. She’s only in danger when he’s in danger, but she chooses to be part of the action, while he feels like he had no choice. She is a hero; Sam is a victim trying to right his accidental wrongs.

  37. Félix Joel De Jesús

    Félix Joel De Jesús2 ヶ月 前

    Me encantan los subtítulos en español, 😆 los mexicanismos lo hacen mas divertido

  38. TokioTE

    TokioTE2 ヶ月 前

    5:12 Dissonance of Framing - it seems that was also happening during a Megan Fox talkshow interview, where she talked about being made to dance under a waterfall in a bikini at 15 years old - but because she says it with a smile, a little laugh and whilst looking gorgeous, the audience start cheering. ... She was sharing something uncomfortable with a nervous laugh, and if you hear her speak a bit more perhaps you would notice she speaks calmly and has a sort of dry humour, getting to the point without needing lots of exaggeration, and people completely missed it. If people would just hear what she is saying and think of the meaning for themselves...

  39. Jack Span

    Jack Span2 ヶ月 前

    I always saw it like that in the first movie. Maybe its because im an aspenger, but the text is always way more important to the then the visuals. I pay way more atention on whats being told then on whats being shown.

  40. Kiera Hennessey

    Kiera Hennessey2 ヶ月 前

    I saw the first movie in middle school and one of the only things I remember about Megan Fox’s character is that I wished I looked like her.

  41. Serena Day

    Serena Day2 ヶ月 前

    If the moon was made of ribs, would you eat it! Love the Will Ferrell SNL Harry Carey sketch reference!

  42. Nomadic Mindset

    Nomadic Mindset2 ヶ月 前

    Y'know, it would be interesting if this got a new edit like the Phantom Menace did, one that makes Mikaela the main character to see how if you could make it read better.

  43. Symphony Sonic

    Symphony Sonic2 ヶ月 前

    I always liked her character! Fox’s an amazing actress that got stuck doing very sexualized roles at a very young age

  44. Mugdha

    Mugdha2 ヶ月 前

    Scarlett Johansson too

  45. Analysta654

    Analysta6542 ヶ月 前

    This was an excellent review, and I must admit I never got those points beforehand.

  46. BdR76

    BdR762 ヶ月 前

    5:16 competant?

  47. MSK

    MSK2 ヶ月 前

    Nobody blames the guy for being an objectifying douche .. they always slut shame the females

  48. Lord Colin

    Lord Colin2 ヶ月 前

    A poor person getting their criminal record expunged? Hahahahahahaha. Oh sure, totally believable. Even in a world with alien robot invaders. Lol. Ridiculous.

  49. mortaché de muerte

    mortaché de muerte2 ヶ月 前

    Maybe Michael Bay just wanted to be a hot girl in his movie and Michaela Banes was his avatar lol

  50. Domestic Cat

    Domestic Cat2 ヶ月 前

    What if the national intelligence leader is secretly trans and hates being addressed in a feminine way for that reason? It's not the only or most likely possibility but i did get the vibe

  51. TinyElectricGremlin

    TinyElectricGremlin2 ヶ月 前

    Yeah, Transformers 1 was the most cohesive Transformers film from a screenplay standpoint....until "Bumblebee." Not only is Bumblebee treated like a sentient being instead of an object, but Charlie is the best female character in the series since Mikaela by a county mile, complete with solid backstory and a compelling character arc.

  52. Jerry Richards

    Jerry Richards2 ヶ月 前

    Just a fact the high rise double pumper carberater that she describes in not what is on that motor in bumblebee. So is she really a person that knows her thing. Or a girl that dresses scantily and talks like that knowing she will get attention for it ?

  53. Schwartzbruder1

    Schwartzbruder12 ヶ月 前

    It's a movie mistake. Given that Mikayla's father taught her everything she knows

  54. Josh S

    Josh S2 ヶ月 前

    it's a Transformers movie, it's not that deep... they probably just got it wrong

  55. Susan Mesler-Evans

    Susan Mesler-Evans2 ヶ月 前

    I am living for this recent trend of people realizing how unfairly Megan Fox was treated and that, actually, she's not a bad actress. (She's been in a LOT of bad movies, but in a lot of cases, she had nothing to work with. When she gets a decent script, she's good!)

  56. Infinite Octopaw

    Infinite Octopaw2 ヶ月 前

    Travis Knight must have watched this. Charlie from bumblebee dose all these things and made her the main character.

  57. Turntapeover

    Turntapeover2 ヶ月 前

    So Michael Bay's version of feminism is either you become one of the Jocks or a castrating femenazis. I mean it's about as nuanced as his movies in general.

  58. Josh S

    Josh S2 ヶ月 前

    I don't think Bay has any version of feminism.

  59. Karishma Changlani

    Karishma Changlani2 ヶ月 前

    We really did Megan Fox dirty. I am ashamed.

  60. Dreamingeye1

    Dreamingeye12 ヶ月 前

    I think its bc iwatched his movie when i was younger that I remember liking Mykayla as a character. I paid more attention to the script than I ever did to the screen. I even went to check out other movies she was in but i don'g remember finding something that jumped out to me

  61. Josh S

    Josh S2 ヶ月 前

    I was younger too, and thought she was smoking hot, but it was still clear as day that Sam was completely useless without her. lol

  62. Sophie Balloons

    Sophie Balloons2 ヶ月 前

    Never saw these movies mostly cause they didn't appeal to me. But I really liked your analysis of the film through a feminist viewpoint. I think it's important to look back at media like this and realize there's still a journey ahead for all of us ! Great video! And to anyone reading this, I hope you have a great day!

  63. M4rk_React0r

    M4rk_React0r2 ヶ月 前

    “Titties boner fap” 😂

  64. H Dervish

    H Dervish2 ヶ月 前

    She was great in How to Lose Friends and Alienate People, perhaps because she was playing a young actress forced into an over sexualized image.

  65. vhulheim

    vhulheim2 ヶ月 前

    megan rain is way hotter and she puts out for the camera :D

  66. Josh S

    Josh S2 ヶ月 前

    No idea what the point of this comparison is, but that's generally what pornstars do, yeah...

  67. Traugott Müller

    Traugott Müller2 ヶ月 前

    Just one more reason to not like Michael Bay.

  68. bbr64 bbr64

    bbr64 bbr642 ヶ月 前

    Sam's the Bella Swan of Transformers. A complete blank slate for dudes to latch on to pretend was them... Thank God after being disappointed with the second movie, I just went full stop with this franchise.

  69. Resplendent Moron

    Resplendent Moron2 ヶ月 前

    My mom taught me more about fixing cars than my dad did.

  70. it just doesn't matter jp

    it just doesn't matter jp2 ヶ月 前

    her role was eye candy. she did it well, lets not get all 3rd wave feminist about it. So it's OK for the guy to be the typical duffus but not OK for the girl to be eye candy? I'll let you in on a little secret, guys love hot babes who know cars. I've been told that girls love guys who can cook and change diapers.

  71. Josh S

    Josh S2 ヶ月 前

    There's vastly different systemic sexist implications between those two things my friend.

  72. Miriam

    Miriam2 ヶ月 前

    No....that's not what Lindsay was arguing at all and you clearly didn't understand her point. Nor have you watched THE FIRST TWO PARTS of this trilogy. Lindsay has already discussed the guy's role as the "typical duffus" in the second part. Like, dude, your cognitive dissonance is showing. Here you go for the link: jpreporter.net/v/%E3%83%93%E3%83%87%E3%82%AA-oNkTeHpHj_I.html

  73. Marcos Jaramillo

    Marcos Jaramillo2 ヶ月 前

    Damn... We're in a tight spot

  74. LordOfNothingreally

    LordOfNothingreally2 ヶ月 前

    I don't think US audiences were ready to see a mainstream action-blockbuster with a powerful, interesting female character. Every time you get pushback, every time you get excuses, every time you get people saying how unrealistic that is. Mikaela Banes is depicted as an object because James Cameron wrote her as one. James Cameron wrote her as an object because society wants her as one. #truth

  75. Josh S

    Josh S2 ヶ月 前

    She's not written like an object, though, she's just dressed/filmed like one. You're mostly right about society, and it's Michael Bay btw. lol

  76. Vratko.

    Vratko.2 ヶ月 前

    Except James Cameron didn't write the Transformers movies...

  77. Bisquick

    Bisquick2 ヶ月 前

    Wait, Megan Fox had lines in this movie?

  78. Dazza S

    Dazza S2 ヶ月 前

    Megan Fox should have done Dark Of The Moon. It would have completed her character arc

  79. Dazza S

    Dazza S2 ヶ月 前

    @Schwartzbruder1 I know. I'm saying she shouldn't have got sacked.

  80. Schwartzbruder1

    Schwartzbruder12 ヶ月 前

    She got fired.

  81. Ariel Harloff

    Ariel Harloff2 ヶ月 前

    I feel like I watched the first movie wrong cause I always remember Michaela for being the most fleshed out character and then she's just gone and I always missed her

  82. Sammy D

    Sammy D2 ヶ月 前

    I've always liked Megan Fox (and Mikaela), but I never really understood why she got so much hate. I always had to defend myself if I said I liked her, so this video was really great to see. Finally, somebody gets it! :)

  83. Then Untamed

    Then Untamed3 日 前

    @Josh S and like if anything the director (who sexualice her since she was fifteen !) should be the one getting hate, not the victim. Megan never wanted to be seeing this way. I feel bad for her. Hope she finds er breakthrough soon

  84. Josh S

    Josh S2 ヶ月 前

    She got hate for just being a sex object, which then allows her to be degraded for it. Think porn, but not that explicit, obviously.

  85. Loki

    Loki2 ヶ月 前

    Sorry, but there is no adding depth to a Michael Bay movie.

  86. Loki

    Loki2 ヶ月 前

    @Schwartzbruder1 I do love her analysis.

  87. Schwartzbruder1

    Schwartzbruder12 ヶ月 前

    Lindsay took it as a challenge hence this video series

  88. Miriam

    Miriam2 ヶ月 前

    That's the point: it was a screenplay that had great potential but since Michael Bay directed it, it soon lost all its depth and substance.

  89. Elle Grace

    Elle Grace2 ヶ月 前

    I still remember the first time I say this movie at age seven and how awestruck I was (as you are at seven by your favorite cartoon reruns being shiny and new) but still despite all that awe holding to Mikaela because I didn’t see the sexist framing as a child. I’ve always said that she was a stronger lead as a side character than Sam was as the main character and none of the boys I was friends with (noted they were the only friends I had BECAUSE I liked Transformers) never agreed with me. It wasn’t until I rewatched it (suddenly in a new light despite watching it hundreds of times since the first time I saw it) and decided that “no I was right, she’s badass and I want to be like her. I’m going to write her with a stronger presence and have her be more focused on the Autobots than Sam because that makes sense.” So ever since if I write anything Bayverse Mikaela is either the lead or a strong supporting character who works as NEST’s head mechanic and is loyal to the Autobots not Sam’s cheating self absorbed ego ☺️

  90. Bobby Horn

    Bobby Horn2 ヶ月 前

    Oh your focus is that on paper she is not written as just eye candy but if you were to ever read a screen play you would notice that it points out that Shia LaBeouf was not just to sit there staring at her oiled up body but also is suppose to bite his hand as if he was on the verge of orgasm. The comment of when was the last time you had to sacrifice anything was to drive home how opposite they are and how she is willing to do what it takes to do the right thing. This question also asked when push comes to shove will you do the same. Megan fox knows she is smoking hot. So she took a job knowing she would be spending the entire movie as eye candy. In the interview she was asked if she was ok with that and then became bitchy about it. She knew what this role would mean for her and some role are just that if you got paid the amount she did in the transformer movies would you really be complaining or would you be working to keep your same image. It’s like the rock being cast in doom as the biggest badass just because he has big muscle the dude at that time couldn’t act for shit. But he played his role and moved one slowly making a name for himself in anyway he can. Playing now in father daughter comedy with him in a tooth fairy costume. To him playing in the fast and furious breaking his casts and jumping out of helecopters with a turret on hip. Always using what he’s got. He once played a step father role in journey to the center of the earth 2 and had someone throw berrys at his chest to bounce off. So why is that not looked down on is it because he is a guy. A guy who worked hard for those pecks. Does it not take similar effort to have such a flat firm stomach and tight ass that Megan fox has or will you claim that she just woke up that way and even then why is that bad. Allow these people who if they can act allow them to use everything advantage they have. As well stop thinking of a movie like a book. A director wants to use all your senses and if they tease you with a beautiful women then realize there is most of the time a purpose Michelle bay is an exception seeing he is a horny Bastered

  91. Josh S

    Josh S2 ヶ月 前

    what a waste of time saying nothing of value

  92. TheSanctuaryl990

    TheSanctuaryl9902 ヶ月 前

    According to Megan Fox during her two interviews she claimed in 2003 while making movie " Bad Boys 2 she was 15 years old and in 10 Th grade! " According to Megan Fox bio she was " born May 16, 1986 !" Micheal Bay released movie Bad Boys 2 " July 18, 2003 " In " July 18, 2003 " That would have made Megan Fox " 17 years old " not 15 years old! Further Megan Fox in other recent interviews claimed nothing inappropriate happen between her and Micheal Bay Someone needs to get their story straight!

  93. -_-

    -_-2 ヶ月 前

    michael bay constantly mocked her and called her names, he said that she was only good at putting a whore face and made her dance in a bikini when she was 15. this is recent information I’m leaving you a link www.indy100.com/article/megan-fox-michael-bay-transformers-two-and-half-men-metoo-9579026

  94. TheScorpion

    TheScorpion2 ヶ月 前

    you do know how math works, right? if the movie was released in 2003, then it was filmed a couple years earlier. she was 15 when she made the movie. movies don't get magically made and released immediately in the same year

  95. Alex Arviso

    Alex Arviso2 ヶ月 前

    a heroic woman is a mary sue/whore. a Gary Stu is complex.

  96. megan88

    megan882 ヶ月 前

    Remember ’Jennifers body’? Its a really good movie. It was supose to be a kind of ’Mean girls’ but with demons. A take on female friendship and how toxic it could get. But the marketing basicle framed it to be a porno. Markening it for men/boys instead for women/girls that it was intended for witch made it sink at the boxoffice. If you think about it, the same could just as easely be done too Mean girls. ’Jennifers body’ was done by women with women for women and got destroyd by men.

  97. Katy TerBerg

    Katy TerBerg2 ヶ月 前

    I used to hate her. I think part of it was internalized biphobia because she is stunning and as a result I immediately thought "bimbo". I realize now that I was part of the problem, honestly. She seems like a kind person who's strong despite being lambasted. It was kind of a thing to hate Megan Fox for quite a while. And it was uncalled for, because she did absolutely nothing wrong.

  98. Wayward Mind

    Wayward Mind3 ヶ月 前

    I'm watching this whole series of videos (The Whole Plate) for the first time in three years, and I found myself thinking: What if the character of Sam just didn't exist? What if only Michaela was the protangonist? (Also, this version has to be directed by Guillermo del Toro.)

  99. Raia Fatema

    Raia Fatema3 ヶ月 前

    This has aged well

  100. Uniquethequeen S

    Uniquethequeen S3 ヶ月 前

    I love the way you broke down everything because it really makes sense

  101. Conor Mckeown

    Conor Mckeown3 ヶ月 前

    Favourite video of Ellis'. Doing Bordwell and Thompson very very proud.

  102. Gabero Bustos

    Gabero Bustos3 ヶ月 前

    hi, a little advice,i eally like your videos , your voice, point of view and analysis, BUT, you really gotta be moe carefull in you edition, i see a lo of flash frames and black frames,. i could help you, am a profesional ediotr im zbogota zcolombia,. Hit me up if i can help.

  103. yazzi panda

    yazzi panda3 ヶ月 前

    Oh wow Mikaela Banes - Micheal Bay is gay

  104. Araluen

    Araluen3 ヶ月 前

    We should cancel Michael Bay. As a child I used to watch the movies and feel uncomfortable but could not explain why, when I grew up I just felt that she was too under dressed and even though we did not have a dress code I would never dress like her. Sure my classmates wore skirts but were never like her, this sexualized. I feel bad for Meghan and beauty is subjective. In my opinion people should hate a mean, violent person who pretends to be good rather than some pretty face they know almost nothing about. It is not just the gross old man, some men have the aduicity to talk to women and even minors however they like and do not care if they are minors which makes it even more uncomfortable. Michaela really seems like the main chracter rather than this immature boy who is supposed to be relatable but has no other characteristics besides being anxious. Usually real people are complicated, just saying. And yes you are right. I just do not understand, not refering to the movie here, how some men and boys seem to have that idea that women are just boobs and butt ans something to be won, then they move on to another woman, collecting them like pokemons and when she is not "hot" she must always be ugly and dumb and " no one will want her" some guys even comment under average looking girl's profiles that they would do them if they put a bag over their head. When women receive comments like these, men should not wonder why they hate them. There are many and different types of men, comments and disgusting behaviors would make any woman hate men and be wary of them if they would do something to her rather than feel calm around men

  105. Josh S

    Josh S2 ヶ月 前

    Her outfit wasn't necessarily the issue, it's how the framing and character actions/responses make it purely objectifying.

  106. marcus24000

    marcus240003 ヶ月 前

    i like sam in the movie but my main reason to watch was megan and not just because she looks nice but she Always had a good vibe about her,she brought something to the table. thing is they do the same with both sexes,the woman is Always the hotty and the guy is Always the cool macho,movies teach guys to go for hot girls and woman to go for cool machos and then they wonder why the dating scene is such a mess in 2020.

  107. weenis

    weenis3 ヶ月 前

    I see so many people finally now realizing what Lindsay is saying in the video. She was ahead of her time with this one

  108. DhammaDina

    DhammaDina3 ヶ月 前

    If people, especially women, boycott movies like this and director's like Bay, that'll send a message, where it hurts, to Hollywood!

  109. Ashmeed Mohammed

    Ashmeed Mohammed13 日 前

    they wouldnt lose as much money as u think.

  110. DhammaDina

    DhammaDina3 ヶ月 前

    Michael Bay is a douche... and that's being kind and polite!

  111. S. G.

    S. G.3 ヶ月 前

    Woah. Excuse me while I rethink every single opinion I had of a character in a famous blockbuster.

  112. Dominik

    Dominik3 ヶ月 前

    I think what creates this bad impression of mikeala’s character are stigma in our society, I actually remembered her as exactly that, a powerful, self actualising women that has figured men out and is so much more mature than anyone else in this movie. You know why? I watched this movie when I was somewhere between 10 and 12 y/o and that’s what I remembered. I think it’s about how you grow up and view things what let’s you have a different impression than others.. cinema is so much more than just the surface that most people focus on!

  113. Itsokayla

    Itsokayla3 ヶ月 前

    omg just realized first movie: Trent gets slack for calling Michael "my little bunny" third movie: Carly essentially gets introduced as "your new lucky bunny" its like they're setting themselves up to say that neither character is going to be respected

  114. rai x

    rai x3 ヶ月 前

    Girls(Feminist) hate Megan Fox

  115. Marina Fontes Malka

    Marina Fontes Malka3 ヶ月 前

    Can I just say: never understood why people hated Fox? I've never watched one of her films, but I have seen clips. She is exceptionally beautiful and from what I've seen, she acts well- so why wasn't she welcomed with open arms in a system that wants just that? For the longest time, I didn't even know she was hated, but I knew of the famous bending over the hood scene. Again, never seen transformers, but every time I saw that scene even I understood that she was being objectified by the camera, not because she's an object, but because the main character is attracted to her and in turn objectifying her. It doesn't take a genius.

  116. Josh S

    Josh S2 ヶ月 前

    She was always oversexualized, and then she got (mostly) blacklisted when she actually spoke up about it, in a nutshell.

  117. Damir Babic

    Damir Babic3 ヶ月 前

    Mikaela was great i liked megan very very much she is still awesome ♥️♥️♥️♥️

  118. l eta

    l eta3 ヶ月 前

    This is the cinematic equivalent of a writer telling you how totally empowered a female character is while describing her breasts in lavish detail. (And then making her fall for a guy who has no redeeming qualities aside from being the protagonist, and treats her like a blow up doll.)

  119. m m

    m m3 ヶ月 前

    i still love this video essay so much

  120. Bobby Goetz

    Bobby Goetz3 ヶ月 前

    Lindsay you are amazing. I absolutely love your videos

  121. Pete Bensen

    Pete Bensen3 ヶ月 前

    I don't even really like transformers but like... she should've been the main character here

  122. ElmoStreetside

    ElmoStreetside3 ヶ月 前

    I think I learned a lot more from Lindsay Ellis’s transformers film theory than I did in actual film school

  123. Hobi Hope

    Hobi Hope3 ヶ月 前

    Megan was really attacked from all angles in the 2000s- Over-sexualized and dumbed down by men and the main target of "I'm not like other girls feminism" by women So glad she's finally getting appreciated (esp with Jennifer's Body) but I hate that she had to go through all this bullshit to get there!!

  124. QueenDej

    QueenDej3 ヶ月 前

    As a misandrist, this was more depressing than it should have been. Never looked at it the way you did. Nice video.